tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33386160.post8177254201205350517..comments2024-02-25T19:29:38.176-06:00Comments on Rob's Blog: Nice start to Thanksgiving weekend.. with a cool finishUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger56125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33386160.post-36641095215631410642017-10-16T14:43:12.271-05:002017-10-16T14:43:12.271-05:00Thanks rob I will look at that for sure!
Do we ha...Thanks rob I will look at that for sure!<br /><br />Do we have a log of the first snowfall dates of every winter season back to 1872? Maybe JJ could make a graph or put that on the record books website? It would be super interesting to see the trend of first fall and last spring snowfall datesMatthew Bouxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11105740857661429481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33386160.post-82400494295265896462017-10-15T21:17:02.223-05:002017-10-15T21:17:02.223-05:00Matthew.. We don't have any weather data for s...Matthew.. We don't have any weather data for southern MB prior to 1872, but there is a great detailed climate record from Fort Snelling Minnesota (now Minneapolis) from 1820 to 1870. Obviously it's not exactly what would have been experienced in southern MB back then, but it does give you a good idea of the general climate conditions over this part of the world back then. <br /><br />See: https://www.climatestations.com/minnesota-weather-history-1820-to-1869/robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01577519556216420480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33386160.post-4853487402032657942017-10-15T20:37:09.180-05:002017-10-15T20:37:09.180-05:00Thanks rob, and yeah that event has always fascina...Thanks rob, and yeah that event has always fascinated me. I wish there was info on it but I suppose we will never know. I would imagine it’s possible though especially in the colder climate of the 1800s. 1872 was actually the year that records began, so pretty much as far back as our records go.<br /><br />It always makes me wonder, what was the climate like before 1872? We know the late 1800’s were cold but what was it like in the 1840’s 50’s and 60’s? I suppose we will never know although it would be really interesting.<br /><br />It would have to be a really extreme out of season setup. Like March 2012, but the “ winter “ version of it, if that makes sense. <br /><br />Do we have a log of all first snowfall dates going back to 1872? I would be very interested to see itMatthew Bouxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11105740857661429481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33386160.post-5045296886167959452017-10-15T20:24:32.391-05:002017-10-15T20:24:32.391-05:00There isn't any info on that Sep 1872 event (t...There isn't any info on that Sep 1872 event (too far back) so I really can't provide much insight into what may have happened. I can't even verify that 18 cm actually fell (perhaps it was a mix of rain and wet snow that they coded as all snow back then, or it was actually 1.8 cm instead of 18) It's awfully early for that much snow to fall in Winnipeg (would be more likely over higher elevations of western MB) but I suppose it *could* happen given an extreme out of season set up. However, given that we've never had a September snowfall anywhere close to that since 1872, I have some suspicion about that 18 cm figure.robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01577519556216420480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33386160.post-83264192504254856432017-10-15T16:21:58.502-05:002017-10-15T16:21:58.502-05:00I agree rob. And as JJ told me on his blog, it see...I agree rob. And as JJ told me on his blog, it seems October snowfalls are getting rarer as well. Winnipeg hasn’t had a good snow in October in a long time. I’m glad we got our first snow much earlier this year, and I hope our winter is going to start earlie.<br /><br />Regarding the Sept 25th 1872 snow, how is it possible for a blizzard to develop over Winnipeg that early?Matthew Bouxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11105740857661429481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33386160.post-42727494035626139862017-10-15T13:43:16.607-05:002017-10-15T13:43:16.607-05:00Totally forgot about that one. This shows the impo...Totally forgot about that one. This shows the importance of maintaining snowfall and climate observations.. because these events are so easy to forget as the years go by. How would we know the rarity or frequency of these events if we don't maintain a good quality climate database to preserve the data? How do we assess trends, extremes and climate change impacts if we don't keep reliable climate records? We need this data.. and debating about climate change impacts becomes pointless if you don't have credible evidence to back your claims. robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01577519556216420480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33386160.post-66278890642996095652017-10-15T11:07:42.654-05:002017-10-15T11:07:42.654-05:00There was also that 20-30 cm snowfall in southeast...There was also that 20-30 cm snowfall in southeastern Manitoba October 4-5, 2012. That one just missed Winnipeg with only a couple slushy cm over a couple days. Power lines down and took days to repair.jjcwpghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03353008394397372445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33386160.post-62239983282752291742017-10-15T11:07:40.463-05:002017-10-15T11:07:40.463-05:00Thanks for the info Rob. Yeah October snowfalls us...Thanks for the info Rob. Yeah October snowfalls usually disappear. That September 25th 1872 storm, how is that even possible to get that much snow that early? I would imagine it all melted after?Matthew Bouxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11105740857661429481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33386160.post-72244649150470214102017-10-14T23:28:28.284-05:002017-10-14T23:28:28.284-05:00Not unusual at all to get accumulating snow in Win...Not unusual at all to get accumulating snow in Winnipeg in mid October. Has happened numerous times. Back in 2009, we had 10 cm on Oct 9th. We've had 13 cm on Oct 2nd (1950) and 18 cm as early as Sep 25th (1872) Over SW MB, they had a massive 35-45 cm dump of snow on Oct 6 2005. And for sheer snow insanity in October, consider October 1959 in Brandon. They had back to back snowstorms between Oct 6 and 10th that dumped 85 cm of snow (49 + 36 cm) then another storm on Oct 25-26th that dumped another 24 cm. Oct 1959 ended up as Brandon's snowiest month EVER with an astounding 115 cm. <br /><br />Bottom line.. measurable snow in October in southern MB is not at all unusual, especially over SW MB where elevation is a little higher. In fact, we can get some epic snowfalls in October if the setup is right. Generally though, October snowfalls will disappear before it sticks around for good by mid to late November. robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01577519556216420480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33386160.post-79949505443384569102017-10-14T16:11:16.935-05:002017-10-14T16:11:16.935-05:00Thanks rob. Actually, according to the record book...Thanks rob. Actually, according to the record books we broke the daily snowfall record of 1.5cm in 1958!! That’s pretty cool. Is it unusual to get accumulating snow this early?Matthew Bouxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11105740857661429481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33386160.post-41635133678333890402017-10-14T14:49:22.003-05:002017-10-14T14:49:22.003-05:00Just a trace amount more.. final total remains at ...Just a trace amount more.. final total remains at 2 cm. robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01577519556216420480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33386160.post-81076675527885799352017-10-14T14:05:56.516-05:002017-10-14T14:05:56.516-05:00It snowed a little bit more around 11AM rob. What ...It snowed a little bit more around 11AM rob. What was the final total at your place?Matthew Bouxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11105740857661429481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33386160.post-53806709881448710902017-10-14T09:15:21.853-05:002017-10-14T09:15:21.853-05:00Thanks rob! Wow last year our first snow wasn’t un...Thanks rob! Wow last year our first snow wasn’t until November 22nd. What a change this year! <br /><br />I don’t like how we are headed to the 20s again. I want winter cold!Matthew Bouxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11105740857661429481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33386160.post-36856018966175861662017-10-14T08:13:15.335-05:002017-10-14T08:13:15.335-05:00Odd.. seems to be updating fine on my devices. Odd.. seems to be updating fine on my devices. robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01577519556216420480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33386160.post-24498659464187018822017-10-14T08:10:51.958-05:002017-10-14T08:10:51.958-05:00Yup, first snow of the season for Winnipeg! 2.0 cm...Yup, first snow of the season for Winnipeg! 2.0 cm at my place, 2.8 mm melted water equivalent. Snow began around 3 am and was pretty much done by 630 am. Precip came in earlier than expected for Winnipeg overnight which meant more snow for us. Should be melted by the afternoon and then a nice rebound next week.. 15C by Monday, 19C by Tuesday, low 20s possible by end of the week! robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01577519556216420480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33386160.post-17008993872807070212017-10-14T07:19:55.932-05:002017-10-14T07:19:55.932-05:00Rob! How much snow did you record at your place? I...Rob! How much snow did you record at your place? Is this the first official snow of the season?<br /><br />The ground is covered here!Matthew Bouxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11105740857661429481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33386160.post-43216006901347789812017-10-14T00:15:25.822-05:002017-10-14T00:15:25.822-05:00I’m on my iPhone but it still stays the same when ...I’m on my iPhone but it still stays the same when I refresh. Sometimes for up to 2 hoursMatthew Bouxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11105740857661429481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33386160.post-32343603457227215422017-10-13T23:48:16.943-05:002017-10-13T23:48:16.943-05:00revised forecast low down to -1C. Our temps shoul...revised forecast low down to -1C. Our temps should hold fairly steady around the freezing mark all night. robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01577519556216420480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33386160.post-2126066766314293212017-10-13T23:45:44.538-05:002017-10-13T23:45:44.538-05:00Hit refresh to update your cache.. my site stats w...Hit refresh to update your cache.. my site stats will stay at the last visit unless cache is updated. robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01577519556216420480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33386160.post-73372296737286578472017-10-13T20:11:34.381-05:002017-10-13T20:11:34.381-05:00The predicted low is +1C yet it’s down to +0.4C as...The predicted low is +1C yet it’s down to +0.4C as of 8PM. Yeah, that makes sense.<br /><br />Are we not going to get much colder tonight?Matthew Bouxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11105740857661429481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33386160.post-10707255323727774872017-10-13T20:04:32.843-05:002017-10-13T20:04:32.843-05:00Rob is your station not updating? It’s 8PM and the...Rob is your station not updating? It’s 8PM and the last reading shows as 6:40PM. I noticed it’s been doing that a lot latelyMatthew Bouxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11105740857661429481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33386160.post-41762688468168349142017-10-13T16:07:50.380-05:002017-10-13T16:07:50.380-05:00Rob, the weather network is now calling for a high...Rob, the weather network is now calling for a high of +3C tomorrow with up to 2cm of accumulating snow. Are the models showing colder with snow now? What happened to that 7C?Matthew Bouxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11105740857661429481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33386160.post-66736421388764007302017-10-13T12:18:43.276-05:002017-10-13T12:18:43.276-05:00Rob did we freeze last night? I saw the hourly low...Rob did we freeze last night? I saw the hourly low was 0.2C but I’m not sure if it got lower I’m between hours.Matthew Bouxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11105740857661429481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33386160.post-9634893138699319532017-10-13T12:15:57.727-05:002017-10-13T12:15:57.727-05:00Yes!!!!! So it is looking likely we are going to s...Yes!!!!! So it is looking likely we are going to see our first accumulating snow of winter? This will be a lot earlier than last year! I absolutely love walking outside during snowfall. Why are a lot of apps saying just rain then?Matthew Bouxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11105740857661429481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33386160.post-12131243260048403182017-10-13T10:40:14.286-05:002017-10-13T10:40:14.286-05:00Latest guidance showing precip starting around 6-7...Latest guidance showing precip starting around 6-7 am in Winnipeg.. likely as a mix of rain and wet snow. Precip will likely change to all snow for awhile in the morning before ending or changing to light rain by midday. I suspect most of the snow will be melting on contact with the warm ground, but there could be a slushy 1 or 2 cm accumulation on grassy surfaces if the precip band is strong enough Saturday morning. Any snow that falls however won't stick around long as temps rise to +5C to +7C by mid to late afternoon. robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01577519556216420480noreply@blogger.com